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between the U.S. and Mexico Would Provide U.S. Social Security Benefits
To Hundreds of Thousands of Mexicans-Truth!
Summary of the eRumor The email says that a
"totalization" agreement between the U.S. and Mexico would
grant Social Security benefits to Mexicans, including some who are
here illegally, even if they didn't work in the U.S. long enough to
qualify for Social Security benefits.
According to the Social Security
Administration, the U.S. has similar totalization agreements with
other countries including Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Canada
Norway, and the United Kingdom.
Critics are hopping mad about a totalization agreement with
Mexico. They say it will cost upwards to one billion dollars
to provide Social Security benefits to Mexicans who will
qualify. They say that at a time when the Social Security
system is such a focus of concern, it's not time to grant such
benefits to such a large group of foreigners.
Supporters say totalization benefits large numbers of Americans too,
not just foreigners in the U.S.. One of the problems,
according to the Social Security Administration, is that Americans,
for example, who have worked in both the U.S. and a foreign country
may end up being double taxed for retirement benefits.
Additionally, there are some workers who have worked, for example,
for a period of time in the United States then worked for a period
of time in a foreign country, but failed to qualify for benefits in
either country. The totalization agreements allow both U.S.
and foreign workers to qualify for benefits based on the combined
coverage of both countries.. According to the Washington Post,
there is an estimated 37,000 Mexicans who worked legally in the
United States and paid into Social Security but have not been able
to collect their checks. One of the controversies of
totalization is that it may include thousands of foreign workers who
were in the U.S. illegally but did pay into Social Security.
Immigration reform in 1996 cut their benefits.
Belgium, Canada, Norway, and the United Kingdom
A real example of the eRumor as it has
appeared on the Internet:
A fond Hello to all:
I could hardly believe what I was reading when I
reviewed the piece below.
How damned stupid can our politicians get (please don't answer, that was
a rhetorical question)?
If, like me, you are sick and tired of Washington taking our money and
squandering it on dumb programs like this one, stand up and be counted.
Write & call your elected representatives and OBJECT! Contact all
your friends and suggest they join in.
This CONSERVATIVE ALERT ISSUE: As Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) puts it,
"dark clouds are gathering over our already dangerously fragile
Social Security system."
In December, the press reported on a looming deal between the United
States and the government of Mexico which would make hundreds of
thousands of Mexican citizens eligible for U.S. Social Security
benefits. The centerpiece of the agreement would be a so-called
"totalization," which would mean that even if a Mexican
citizen did not work in the United States long enough to qualify for
Social Security, the number of years worked in Mexico would be added to
bring up the total and thus make the Mexican worker eligible for cash
transfers from the United States.
Worse still, thousands of foreigners who would qualify for U.S. Social
Security benefits actually came to the United States and worked here
illegally. Under "totalization," a foreigner who came to the
United States illegally could work fewer than the required number of
return to Mexico for the rest of his working years, and collect full
U.S. Social Security benefits while living in Mexico. That is an insult
to the millions of Americans who pay their entire working lives into the
system and now face the possibility that there may be nothing left
when it is their turn to retire.
"The proposed agreement is nothing more than a financial reward to
those who have willingly and knowingly violated our own immigration
laws," says Rep. Paul. "Talk about an incentive for illegal
immigration! How many more would break the law to come to this country
if promised U.S. government paychecks for life? Is creating a global
welfare state on the
back of the American taxpayer a good idea? The program also establishes
a very disturbing precedent of U.S. foreign aid to individual citizens
rather than to states."
Estimates of what this deal with the Mexican government would cost top
one billion dollars per year. As the system braces for a steep increase
in those who will be drawing from the Social Security trust fund, it
makes no sense to expand it into a global welfare system. Social
Security was designed to provide support for retired American citizens
who worked in the United States. We should be shoring up the system for
those Americans who have paid in for decades, not expanding it to cover
foreigners who have not.
Supporters of the Social Security to Mexico deal may attempt to downplay
the effect the agreement would have on the system, but actions speak
louder than words: According to several press reports, the State
Department and the Social Security Administration are already
negotiating to build a new building in Mexico City to handle the
expected rush of applicants for this new program!
ACTION ITEM: Social Security should be limited to United States citizens
and nationals who have paid into the system. It should not be a global
giveaway. In the 107th Congress, Rep. Paul introduced the "Social
Security Preservation Act" (H.R. 219), which would ensure that all
money in the Social Security trust fund is spent solely on Social
As Congress continues to demonstrate an inability to control spending
that threatens the Social Security trust fund, the need for this
legislation has never been greater. So, Rep. Paul intends to
re-introduce this legislation in the new 108th Congress.
Go to our site below now to send a FREE editable pre-written message to
your Representative, asking that he or she support the "Social
Security Preservation Act" this session:
NOTE: Be sure to forward this e-mail to everyone you know that wants to
help STOP this "great global social security giveaway."
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