Prison Minister Shames Moslem During a Prison Training Session-Disputed!

Summary of eRumor:

A story said to be written by prison minister Rick Mathes describes a confrontation between him and  Moslem during a prison training session for those who have clearance to visit the prison.

He challenged the Moslem about whether Islam teaches the killing of infidels and allegedly reduced him to child-like shame.

The Truth:

We contacted Rick Mathes, founder of Mission Gate Prison Ministries in Chesterfield, Missouri, and he stands by his story.
There have been some published reports from critics of Mathes’ article who say the confrontation did not take place the way he describes and that the Moslem who spoke at the conference was not an Imam, but a prisoner who volunteered to speak as a Moslem.
Rick Mathes says that the man was introduced at the meeting as an Imam and that the story happened as he describes it.

Last update:  4/1/04

A real example of the eRumor as it has appeared on the Internet:

Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathes

Last month I attended my annual training session that’s required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great
presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.

After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.

When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: “Please, correct me if I’m
wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war]
against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that’s the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?”

There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, “Non-believers!”

I responded, “So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded
to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?”

The _expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who
had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, “Yes.”

I then stated, “Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all
Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!”

The Imam was speechless.

I continued, “I also have problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are
telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who
tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?”

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.

Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the ‘Diversification’ training seminar were not
happy with Rick’s way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim’s

I think everyone in the US should be required to read this, but with the liberal justice system,
liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized. Please pass this on to
all your email contacts.

This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in prison ministry.